Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 49, Issue 11


Ryan Coverdell
 

How easy is it to do a clean uninstall and reinstall? Could I do it,
as a blind person, by myself or would it be best if I had some one who
could see talk me through it? I do have some other computer issues, so
maybe waiting till mydays off this week may be best. But if any of you
would feel comfortable guiding me through the process of uninstalling
or reinstalling JAWS please give me your contact info. If possible,
could you contact me off list, those of you who could help me? On list
it can be cluttery with the other messages to sort through.
Regards, Ryan Coverdell

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Today's Topics:

1. RE: question about accessible text editors for scripting
(Paul Lemm)
2. doing a jaws repair (Ryan Coverdell)
3. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Stan Bobbitt)
4. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Marsha)
5. Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007 (Carolyn Arnold)
6. Re: doing a jaws repair (john.falter)
7. Re: doing a jaws repair (Dave Carlson)
8. Re: doing a jaws repair (Tim Ford)
9. RE: doing a jaws repair (Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.)
10. Re: doing a jaws repair (Tim Ford)
11. RE: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Michal Nowicki)
12. RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007 (Michal Nowicki)
13. RE: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Michal Nowicki)
14. RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007 (Michal Nowicki)
15. RE: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Daniel McBride)
16. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Melissa STOTT)
17. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Maria Campbell)
18. RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007 (Harry Spencer)
19. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Peter op t Hof)
20. Re: You need to update Skype. NOT! (Russell Solowoniuk)
21. Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007 (Russell Solowoniuk)
22. RE: Netflix (Gennie Eachus)
23. Re: Netflix (Brent Harding)
24. Navigating Netflix!! (Kevin Wollenweber)
25. jaws and braillepen 12 (Gery Gaubert)
26. Installation of today's new JAWS release (Adrian Spratt)
27. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Lee Anne Atkinson)
28. Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Dennis)
29. Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release (NLG)
30. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Londa Peterson)
31. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Drew Hunthausen)
32. Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release
(mitch@orbitelcom.com)
33. Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Stan Holdeman)
34. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Londa Peterson)
35. installation of today's new release from JAWS (Daniel McBride)
36. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Daniel McBride)
37. RE: installation of today's new release from JAWS (Michal Nowicki)
38. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Michal Nowicki)
39. RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release (Michal Nowicki)
40. RE: installation of today's new release from JAWS (Crist?bal)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:17:21 +0100
From: "Paul Lemm" <paul.lemm@sky.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: question about accessible text editors for scripting
Message-ID: <00c001d0ab74$9672db10$c3589130$@sky.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Amy,

Just getting into programming myself so only using notepad at present, but
would be interested to hear if anyone came back to you with any suggestions
for good text editors as notepad does the job for me but I'm sure there
are
better programs out there.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Amy Bower via
Jfw
Sent: 15 June 2015 21:00
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Amy Bower
Subject: question about accessible text editors for scripting

Hi All - I'm looking for an accessible text editor (Windows) for writing
program scripts (specifically for Matlab, which is somewhat like C but
unique to Matlab). I've tried EdSharp and it works pretty well, but looking
for something else that is updated. I use both Jaws and Magic, and need the
editor to work with both simultaneously. I've looked into UltraEdit, and as
others have reported, it seems to work well with Jaws, but Magic only
tracked the cursor in SayAll, not when I move word to word or line to line.
Whatever editor I use has to have a Go To Line command for debugging. I
think that rules out Notepad and Wordpad. I've read that Notepad++ is not
that accessible. I looked into emacs and emacspeak, but these seemd to have
steep learning curves. Not that interested in them.

Suggestions welcome, offline please, at abower@whoi.edu.

Thanks.

-Amy B.

P.S. I'm running on two Windows 7, 64-bit platforms, one has Magic 12, Jaws
16 and MS Office 12, and the other has Magic 13, Jaws 16 and MS Office
2013.



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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:33:57 -0600
From: Ryan Coverdell <rmcover74@gmail.com>
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: doing a jaws repair
Message-ID:
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I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7. I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages. Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
Ryan Coverdell



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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 12:45:02 -0400
From: "Stan Bobbitt" <sbobbitt@triad.rr.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <A2DD37F3143F4DB29AA33E168B0E0ADB@GbobbittHP>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

When I need to completely close skype I follow these steps:
1 open select a system tray icon with INSERT F11 and arrow down to skype
2 tab to right single click and hit spacebar
3 arrow down to quit and hit enter
4 you'll be asked if you're sure, tab down to quit and again hit enter

HTH
Stan B

-----Original Message-----
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I had the same issue with not being able to close Skype after installing.
I?m
running Windows 8.1 as well, and wonder if we inadvertently installed the
Windows App version of Skype instead of the full desktop version? I?m not to

clear as to whether or not there are Windows Apps for all programs or not.
Just a thought. I hardly use Skype, so not sure if it?s working or not? just

installed the update because a window came up prompting me to update Skype,

so I did.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just

fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do
so and all of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype
scripts from Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in
Skype, as advertised in an email message I received having a
subject line similar to the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it
a try. In fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long,
but this has to rank right up there with the most inaccessible
products I've seen on the market in the last decade. The thing
brings up a list of options that one can read, but none of them
works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot be removed even
with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype really a
virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was
fairly easy to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working
normally, but I really thought I had inadvertently introduced a
virus to my computer (Windows 8.1). I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and
those with psychological needs to inflict punishment upon
themselves, I would recommend to people that they bypass the
tempting advertisements in the Skype email message that is likely
to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not appeared already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:47:43 -0500
From: "Marsha" <marcatony@yahoo.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <2FD1499F8CAB405A98F81A0132748F63@OwnerPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

HI
If you want to close Skype, the easiest way is to go to the system tray.
hit quit, then yes you are sure.

Marsha




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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:03:58 -0400
From: "Carolyn Arnold" <4carolyna@windstream.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007
Message-ID: <09E7FAB02ADE49749CDF1D06F4A8AF85@carolynea4ea6d>
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It has worked on my last too computers. Some of the women in my card groups

can't open my attachments. I, being the leader, have to send updates
occasionally, and I patch the whole file into the body of the e-mail - away

it goes, and they can read them. When we have someone new, the attachment is

pretty long.

"Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right." Henry
Ford.

Carolyn

----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007


This surprises me. I didn?t know one could paste attachments right into
the body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I?ve

been doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it
was possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook 2013?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the main

body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to edit

box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I understand

the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an attachment in the

main body edit area?
Thanks,
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook

2007

Hello Harry,
Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not mistaken
when
you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Spencer
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Harry Spencer
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Hi Brissett,
I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I want

in
attachment so I press ctrl + c to copy then open a new message in e-mail

to
the person I want to send the picture where do I paste the picture by
press
ctrl +v where in message?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett,
Tom
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the
clipboard
with control+C and paste it into your email. It will put it in as an
attachment.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Alt N, A, F

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison
Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 !! I
want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put attachment in
e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment ?

Addison



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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 13:12:32 -0400
From: "john.falter" <john.falter@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair
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Re: JAWS Repair David Whitehead 12/23/2013 9:33? xpc

The steps below are the best, most in depth, and most thorough way of
repairing Jaws according to Freedom Scientific Tech Support.
Note; jaws11 is the example, however, this will work for 12 13 14 15.
1. Place a copy of the Jaws executible version that you want to repair into
the main root of the " C " drive. For example; If you are running Jaws11
most recent you would paste a copy of " J11.0.1430-32bit.exe " into the
main
root of the " C " drive. To open the main root of the " C " drive, go to
the desktop, press enter on My Computer, press enter on Local disk C, and
now you have the main root of the " C " drive open.
2. With the Jaws " .exe " pasted into the "C" drive, highlight the " .exe
",
and press F2 as if you were going to edit this line of text. now press
control + C to copy this Jaws executible, press escape to close the edit
field, and press Alt + F4 to close the C drive.
What you want to do is place just the title of the Jaws version into the
Windows Run Dialogue box and not the file. If you were to place the Jaws
executable into the Run box without copying as you did as per the
instructions above you would have pasted the whole file into the Run Box
instead of just the title.
3. Now that you have just the title copied to the clipboard, press Windows
key + R to open the Run Dialogue Box. Type, remember to type a capitalC ,"
C:\ " without the quotes or
spaces and press control + V to paste the Jaws title, press your end key to
take the cursor to the end of the title and type in the following " /type
repair" without the quotes but, with the spaces . Below is what your line
of text should look / read like.

C:\J15.0.5056ENU-64bit.exe /type repair

Read character by character to make sure you have put in the proper spaces,
Forward & back slashes and text. press the home key to go to the front of
the title and press enter to start the repair.



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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:00:39 -0700
From: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair
Message-ID: <F2AB6637B28B4B01AD8A997A20BE46CD@SJDCARLSON>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Ryan,

If you have a copy of your current original JAWS executable file, why not
just do an install of that version?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Coverdell via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ryan Coverdell" <rmcover74@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 09:33 AM
Subject: doing a jaws repair


I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7. I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages. Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
Ryan Coverdell

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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 10:22:49 -0700
From: "Tim Ford" <ttford@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair
Message-ID: <DEADB89ED1F542E0BE9BCC6D4FC0FE37@intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi All,

Just to add my two cents worth, I would not bother with the repair option,
just do a new installation. My purely anecdotal experience is that the
repair never works, and Freedom Scientific ends up thereafter recommending
doing a new clean install; this has happened to me probably 5 or 6 times
over the years. Frankly, the new install goes more quickly than the repair

option, so I wonder why they bother with the repair.


Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair

Ryan,

If you have a copy of your current original JAWS executable file, why not
just do an install of that version?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Coverdell via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ryan Coverdell" <rmcover74@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 09:33 AM
Subject: doing a jaws repair


I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7. I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages. Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
Ryan Coverdell

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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:40:28 +0000
From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." <kramlinger.keith@mayo.edu>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: doing a jaws repair
Message-ID: <2f3a88$sgo1a@ironport10.mayo.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Can you do the reinstall directly over the onboard version? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair

Hi All,

Just to add my two cents worth, I would not bother with the repair option,
just do a new installation. My purely anecdotal experience is that the
repair never works, and Freedom Scientific ends up thereafter recommending
doing a new clean install; this has happened to me probably 5 or 6 times
over the years. Frankly, the new install goes more quickly than the repair
option, so I wonder why they bother with the repair.


Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair

Ryan,

If you have a copy of your current original JAWS executable file, why not
just do an install of that version?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ryan Coverdell" <rmcover74@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 09:33 AM
Subject: doing a jaws repair


I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7. I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages. Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
Ryan Coverdell

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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:11:06 -0700
From: "Tim Ford" <ttford@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair
Message-ID: <6EDED1F7338A4509B4429CA555905479@intra.dhs.ca.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Yes, you can do a "new" install without having to first remove the old
version. If you are able, I recommend first removing the version with the
bug in it, but sometimes the bug has the side effect of blocking the
uninstall program.
Tim Ford


-----Original Message-----
From: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:40 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Subject: RE: doing a jaws repair

Can you do the reinstall directly over the onboard version? Thanks, Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 12:23 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair

Hi All,

Just to add my two cents worth, I would not bother with the repair option,
just do a new installation. My purely anecdotal experience is that the
repair never works, and Freedom Scientific ends up thereafter recommending
doing a new clean install; this has happened to me probably 5 or 6 times
over the years. Frankly, the new install goes more quickly than the repair

option, so I wonder why they bother with the repair.


Tim Ford

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:00 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: doing a jaws repair

Ryan,

If you have a copy of your current original JAWS executable file, why not
just do an install of that version?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Coverdell via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Ryan Coverdell" <rmcover74@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 09:33 AM
Subject: doing a jaws repair


I had malware on my computer and in the process of restoring Jaws it
no longer works right. I can tab from link to link using google chrome
but I cannot read using the arrow keys. On IE 11 I can do neither.
FREEDOM SCIENTIFIC said I need to do a repair of Jaws. I could not
stay and do it, but they said they were willing to assist. The next
time I would be able to call them is Thursday, June 2,5. I'd rather
not wait that long if I can help it. Is any one on this list competent
doing a Jaws repair and could walk me through it? If you are could you
contact me off list? If it's an easy enough process could you send me
instructions? If not, could you give me your phone number and the
times you are available? I'll be around most of today and on Monday,
Tuesday, and Wednesday evenings after 6 P.M. Mountain standard time.
I'd really like to get this fixed. Jaws 14, windows 7. I'm writing
this message on my Pac Mate Omni, which is now the only device I have
that reads web-based text pages. Happy Father's Day tomorrow,
Ryan Coverdell

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:30:57 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <002901d0ab98$03d60240$0b8206c0$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

I close Skype from the Task Bar because Alt F4 doesn't work for me either.
Other then that, however, the program works well for me; I use JAWS 16 and
Windows 8.1. One setting I recommend changing, though, is unchecking the
"Skype Home" option in the view menu. If checked, this setting makes
screen
reader navigation more difficult because parts of the Skype website appear
in the program.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Marsha via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Marsha
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

HI
If you want to close Skype, the easiest way is to go to the system tray.
hit quit, then yes you are sure.

Marsha


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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:32:27 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007
Message-ID: <003301d0ab98$39d3e0b0$ad7ba210$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Let us know if it works in Groupwise.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Hi Bill,

Thanks. I mostly use a Mac at home now, and at work we use Groupwise for
email, so I guess I?ve fallen a bit behind with the Outlook world! :) I
really like the method of pasting attachments directly into the body of an
email, and am glad this is possible in Windows. I?ll have to try it in
Groupwise when I go back to work, which won?t be till the middle of August!

Thanks again Bill.

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Bill White via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hi, Russell. This works in Outlook 2007, 2010, and 2013.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
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<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007


This surprises me. I didn?t know one could paste attachments right into
the body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I?ve
been doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it
was possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook
2013?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the
main body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to
edit box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I
understand the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an
attachment in the main body edit area?
Thanks,
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello Harry,
Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not
mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Spencer via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Harry Spencer
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Hi Brissett,
I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I
want in attachment so I press ctrl + c to copy then open a new
message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do
I paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Bissett, Tom via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the
clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email. It will put
it in as an attachment.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Alt N, A, F

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007
!! I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put
attachment in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created
attachment ?

Addison



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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:37:39 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <003501d0ab98$f3f36e20$dbda4a60$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Skype does have both a desktop and a metro app, but not all programs have
versions optimized specifically for Windows 8 and above. If this were the
case, we would be able to run JAWS on Windows RT.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:05 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I had the same issue with not being able to close Skype after installing.
I?m running Windows 8.1 as well, and wonder if we inadvertently installed
the Windows App version of Skype instead of the full desktop version? I?m
not to clear as to whether or not there are Windows Apps for all programs or
not. Just a thought. I hardly use Skype, so not sure if it?s working or not?
just installed the update because a window came up prompting me to update
Skype, so I did.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do
so and all of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype
scripts from Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype,
as advertised in an email message I received having a subject line
similar to the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a
try. In fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but
this has to rank right up there with the most inaccessible products
I've seen on the market in the last decade. The thing brings up a
list of options that one can read, but none of them works. Even
worse, Skype hangs around and cannot be removed even with Alt-F4. I
almost entitled this message, "Is Skype really a virus?" Fortunately,
after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly easy to get rid of the
thing. Now, my computer is working normally, but I really thought I
had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows 8.1).
I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those
with psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I
would recommend to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements
in the Skype email message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon
- if it has not appeared already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:40:01 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007
Message-ID: <003701d0ab99$4897fa90$d9c7efb0$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Does this work in Thunderbird? Windows Live Mail? Other clients?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

This surprises me. I didn?t know one could paste attachments right into the
body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I?ve been
doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it was
possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook 2013?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the main
body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to edit
box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I understand
the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an attachment in the
main body edit area?
Thanks,
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello Harry,
Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not
mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Spencer via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Harry Spencer
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Hi Brissett,
I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I
want in attachment so I press ctrl + c to copy then open a new
message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do I
paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett,
Tom via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the
clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email. It will put it
in as an attachment.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Alt N, A, F

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 !!
I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put attachment
in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment ?

Addison



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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 16:34:45 -0500
From: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <008401d0aba0$ee3c7140$cab553c0$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I second Robin. I am having no problems with Skype. I also wish to
say that Microsoft is among the more user friendly corporations for the
blind that I have found.

I wish to suggest that the email you received was a sham email not
generated
by Skype, but by a spammer.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robin Frost
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to someone
and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do so and all
of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype scripts from
Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype, as
advertised in an email message I received having a subject line similar to
the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a try.
In
fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but this has to rank
right up there with the most inaccessible products I've seen on the market
in the last decade. The thing brings up a list of options that one can
read, but none of them works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot be
removed even with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype really
a virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly
easy
to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working normally, but I
really
thought I had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows
8.1).
I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those with
psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I would
recommend
to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements in the Skype email
message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not
appeared
already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 17:59:31 -0400
From: Melissa STOTT <mstott69@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <F10CBAAF-3157-404C-B3B3-C33AD9370B4A@verizon.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I too use Skype, and have no problems. I also use the latest scripts for
Skype.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 20, 2015, at 5:34 PM, Daniel McBride via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I second Robin. I am having no problems with Skype. I also wish to
say that Microsoft is among the more user friendly corporations for the
blind that I have found.

I wish to suggest that the email you received was a sham email not
generated
by Skype, but by a spammer.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robin Frost
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone
and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do so and
all
of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype scripts from
Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype, as
advertised in an email message I received having a subject line similar
to
the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a try.
In
fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but this has to
rank
right up there with the most inaccessible products I've seen on the
market
in the last decade. The thing brings up a list of options that one can
read, but none of them works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot
be
removed even with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype
really
a virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly
easy
to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working normally, but I
really
thought I had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows
8.1).
I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those
with
psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I would
recommend
to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements in the Skype email
message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not
appeared
already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 18:19:29 -0400
From: Maria Campbell <lucky1@ct.metrocast.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <5585E6F1.3020802@ct.metrocast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Agreed.


On 6/20/2015 5:34 PM, Daniel McBride via Jfw wrote:
I second Robin. I am having no problems with Skype. I also wish to
say that Microsoft is among the more user friendly corporations for the
blind that I have found.

I wish to suggest that the email you received was a sham email not
generated
by Skype, but by a spammer.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robin Frost
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone
and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do so and
all
of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype scripts from
Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype, as
advertised in an email message I received having a subject line similar
to
the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a try.
In
fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but this has to
rank
right up there with the most inaccessible products I've seen on the
market
in the last decade. The thing brings up a list of options that one can
read, but none of them works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot
be
removed even with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype
really
a virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly
easy
to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working normally, but I
really
thought I had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows
8.1).
I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those
with
psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I would
recommend
to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements in the Skype email
message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not
appeared
already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 15:22:49 -0700
From: "Harry Spencer" <spencer-h@sbcglobal.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007
Message-ID: <000e01d0aba7$a56915c0$f03b4140$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I tried it in Thunderbirde and don't believe it works. I'd be delighted if
someone proved me wrong. Harry



-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal Nowicki
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 1:40 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Does this work in Thunderbird? Windows Live Mail? Other clients?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

This surprises me. I didn?t know one could paste attachments right into the
body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way I?ve been
doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never knew it was
possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in outlook 2013?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the main
body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send to edit
box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I understand
the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an attachment in the
main body edit area?
Thanks,
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello Harry,
Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not
mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Harry
Spencer via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Harry Spencer
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Hi Brissett,
I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I
want in attachment so I press ctrl + c to copy then open a new
message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do I
paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bissett,
Tom via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the
clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email. It will put it
in as an attachment.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Alt N, A, F

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007 !!
I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put attachment
in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created attachment ?

Addison



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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 07:34:53 +0200
From: Peter op t Hof <opthofp@xs4all.nl>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <55864CFD.6070001@xs4all.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Daniel,

I had the same message and i have less problems with skype.
This is why.

I have the latest version of Jaws and a braille display.
If speech does not work, i can compensate with my fingers.
Also i use the scripts, but advertisementscreens are changing in every
update, so it is a little puzzle tofind messageboxes and dialogs.

Greetings from the Netherlands.

Peter.


Op 20-6-2015 om 23:34 schreef Daniel McBride via Jfw:
I second Robin. I am having no problems with Skype. I also wish to
say that Microsoft is among the more user friendly corporations for the
blind that I have found.

I wish to suggest that the email you received was a sham email not
generated
by Skype, but by a spammer.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Robin Frost
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:48 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Robin Frost
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone
and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do so and
all
of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype scripts from
Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in Skype, as
advertised in an email message I received having a subject line similar
to
the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it a try.
In
fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long, but this has to
rank
right up there with the most inaccessible products I've seen on the
market
in the last decade. The thing brings up a list of options that one can
read, but none of them works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot
be
removed even with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype
really
a virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was fairly
easy
to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working normally, but I
really
thought I had inadvertently introduced a virus to my computer (Windows
8.1).
I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and those
with
psychological needs to inflict punishment upon themselves, I would
recommend
to people that they bypass the tempting advertisements in the Skype email
message that is likely to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not
appeared
already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 20:58:35 -0600
From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!
Message-ID: <BE8F78A0-DB90-4F8E-A0EF-951471361A13@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Stan,

Thanks for this? I totally forgot about this. A few years ago Iused Skype
quite a lot, and had to close Skype the way you describe? thanks for the
reminder!

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Stan Bobbitt via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

When I need to completely close skype I follow these steps:
1 open select a system tray icon with INSERT F11 and arrow down to skype
2 tab to right single click and hit spacebar
3 arrow down to quit and hit enter
4 you'll be asked if you're sure, tab down to quit and again hit enter

HTH
Stan B

-----Original Message----- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 11:04 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I had the same issue with not being able to close Skype after installing.
I?m running Windows 8.1 as well, and wonder if we inadvertently installed
the Windows App version of Skype instead of the full desktop version? I?m
not to clear as to whether or not there are Windows Apps for all programs
or not. Just a thought. I hardly use Skype, so not sure if it?s working or
not? just installed the update because a window came up prompting me to
update Skype, so I did.

HTH

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 8:48 AM, Robin Frost via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hi,
My goodness all of this excitement. I'm running the latest build of the
program with JFW 16 and though some things have changed all is going just
fine. I was able to explore various options, send a chat message to
someone and even see where to initiate a call should I have wished to do
so and all of that even without being sure I'm running the latest Skype
scripts from Doug.
Deep cleansing breaths and reasonable thought processes are a good
thing.
Happy Saturday one and all.
Robin


-----Original Message----- From: Ed Marquette via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 5:40 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ed Marquette
Subject: You need to update Skype. NOT!

I have never been a big fan of Skype, but the new features in
Skype, as advertised in an email message I received having a
subject line similar to the above, made it tempting.

So, I read further. Apparently, the old Skype will no longer be
supported.

Being one always willing to jump for the bleeding edge, I gave it
a try. In fairness, I didn't try to work with it for very long,
but this has to rank right up there with the most inaccessible
products I've seen on the market in the last decade. The thing
brings up a list of options that one can read, but none of them
works. Even worse, Skype hangs around and cannot be removed even
with Alt-F4. I almost entitled this message, "Is Skype really a
virus?" Fortunately, after going to the Control Panel, it was
fairly easy to get rid of the thing. Now, my computer is working
normally, but I really thought I had inadvertently introduced a
virus to my computer (Windows 8.1). I'm using JAWS 16.

So, except for those with some sight (probably quite a bit) and
those with psychological needs to inflict punishment upon
themselves, I would recommend to people that they bypass the
tempting advertisements in the Skype email message that is likely
to appear in your Inbox soon - if it has not appeared already.



Sent from my Yoga IdeaPad

I. Edward Marquette

Universal Phone: 408.692.5640



Mobile: 816.812.0088





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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:01:26 -0600
From: Russell Solowoniuk <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007
Message-ID: <6A8A8B29-2E2F-41F4-9B95-22163B3D6B1E@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Yes, for sure I will, but that won?t happen till mid-August! :)

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Michal Nowicki via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

Let us know if it works in Groupwise.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Russell
Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:11 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7 Outlook
2007

Hi Bill,

Thanks. I mostly use a Mac at home now, and at work we use Groupwise for
email, so I guess I?ve fallen a bit behind with the Outlook world! :) I
really like the method of pasting attachments directly into the body of an
email, and am glad this is possible in Windows. I?ll have to try it in
Groupwise when I go back to work, which won?t be till the middle of
August!

Thanks again Bill.

Russell
On Jun 20, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Bill White via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
wrote:

Hi, Russell. This works in Outlook 2007, 2010, and 2013.

Bill White billwhite92701@dslextreme.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw"
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Russell Solowoniuk" <rsolowoniuk@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007


This surprises me. I didn?t know one could paste attachments right into
the body of an email message. Is this something new? This is the way
I?ve been doing attachments on my Mac for the past 6 years, but never
knew it was possible in Windows and Outlook. Does this only work in
outlook 2013?

Thanks,

Russell
On Jun 19, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:

I do not have Outlook, but typically the body is where you write the
main body of your letter. In Windows Live Mail one tabs from the send
to edit box to cc, to bc, to subject, to the body of the letter. Do I
understand the directions correctly; in Outlook one just pastes an
attachment in the main body edit area?
Thanks,
Cheers Kevin.
-----Original Message----- From: O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:11 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello Harry,
Man I don't know what is the body of the e-mail is? If I'm not
mistaken when you say body ,Are you mean in message ?


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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:14 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Harry Spencer
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Just paste in the body of the email. Harry

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O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 2:13 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Hi Brissett,
I want to send a picture in attachment ,if I find the picture that I
want in attachment so I press ctrl + c to copy then open a new
message in e-mail to the person I want to send the picture where do
I paste the picture by press ctrl +v where in message?


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of
Bissett, Tom via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bissett, Tom
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Or you can find the document you want to attach, copy it to the
clipboard with control+C and paste it into your email. It will put
it in as an attachment.
Tom Bisset
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michal
Nowicki via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:42 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Michal Nowicki
Subject: RE: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook
2007

Alt N, A, F

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O.Addison Gethers via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:32 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: How to send or create attachment in e-mail ? Window7
Outlook 2007

Hello All,

I have jaws 16 ,window7 desktop computer and Microsoft outlook 2007
!! I want to send someone attachment in e-mail ,How can I put
attachment in e-mail ? What is the keystroke command for created
attachment ?

Addison



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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 21:55:52 -0700
From: "Gennie Eachus" <eachusgm@sbcglobal.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Netflix
Message-ID: <002001d0aca7$b7ca2aa0$275e7fe0$@sbcglobal.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

When I went to Netflix today, I was welcomed to a new site. I was placed in
"application". What does that mean? Seemed to have something to do with
forms mode. One of the headings was new releases. Below that was a browse
link. When I clicked on it I was left in limbo. When I did find a list, it
was a bunch of numbers. Have not tried app on iPhone yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Netflix

Jenny:

With Kevin's help, I did a little experimenting. When you log onto the
initial page for Netflix, tab and/or arrow down to "search" and hit the
home
button. Then hit the left mouse button and this will take you to the next
page where you will find the edit field to edit the title you seek.

I am a big fan of Star Trek (the original series and Next Generation) and
The Twilight Zone. I managed to navigate to each of these shows in the
above
manner.

Again, thanks to Kevin's earlier post, which wasn't the actual method used,
but it led the way to my ultimate solution.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie Eachus
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Netflix

I also am having trouble with Netflix. I can no longer access the search
field. I have spoken to both the DVD customer service line and to the
streaming customer service line.

The customer service number is
(877) 742-1480
You will be asked to go online to get a service code to speed things up.
Not
necessary. Just stay on the line and someone will answer.

We all need to call Netflix about this issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of carman
mccauley via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: carman mccauley
Subject: RE: Netflix

Hi,

A couple of things that may help. On the profile page use the jaws cursor
to click on the profile you want. Use insert f7 to use the links list on
the movies page. I agree they messed it up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: June-19-15 6:45 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: Netflix

Dear Group:

I am new to this JAWS User Group. I am a subscriber to Netflix, who seems
to
want to make it darned difficult for screen readers to navigate.

I am operating with JAWS 14, Windows 7 and Internet Explorer. Netflix
changed things about 4 months ago that made navigation difficult without a
sighted person to use the mouse. Then, they changed again yesterday and I
cannot navigate their site at all.

Any others out there with this issue?

Daniel
Texas


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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:21:38 -0500
From: "Brent Harding" <brent@hostany.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Netflix
Message-ID: <1B4C9A92A7BF474384B182899158DF42@brent6cd91fc87>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I think they're trying to make the new site more like an app than a website.

I hate these kind of sites because they shut your virtual cursor off and
leave you with little to be able to do a lot of the time.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gennie Eachus via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gennie Eachus" <eachusgm@sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 11:55 PM
Subject: RE: Netflix


When I went to Netflix today, I was welcomed to a new site. I was placed
in
"application". What does that mean? Seemed to have something to do with
forms mode. One of the headings was new releases. Below that was a browse
link. When I clicked on it I was left in limbo. When I did find a list,
it
was a bunch of numbers. Have not tried app on iPhone yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:41 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Netflix

Jenny:

With Kevin's help, I did a little experimenting. When you log onto the
initial page for Netflix, tab and/or arrow down to "search" and hit the
home
button. Then hit the left mouse button and this will take you to the next
page where you will find the edit field to edit the title you seek.

I am a big fan of Star Trek (the original series and Next Generation) and
The Twilight Zone. I managed to navigate to each of these shows in the
above
manner.

Again, thanks to Kevin's earlier post, which wasn't the actual method
used,
but it led the way to my ultimate solution.

Daniel

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gennie
Eachus
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:49 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Gennie Eachus
Subject: RE: Netflix

I also am having trouble with Netflix. I can no longer access the search
field. I have spoken to both the DVD customer service line and to the
streaming customer service line.

The customer service number is
(877) 742-1480
You will be asked to go online to get a service code to speed things up.
Not
necessary. Just stay on the line and someone will answer.

We all need to call Netflix about this issue.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of carman
mccauley via Jfw
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 5:17 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: carman mccauley
Subject: RE: Netflix

Hi,

A couple of things that may help. On the profile page use the jaws
cursor
to click on the profile you want. Use insert f7 to use the links list on
the movies page. I agree they messed it up.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: June-19-15 6:45 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: Netflix

Dear Group:

I am new to this JAWS User Group. I am a subscriber to Netflix, who seems

to
want to make it darned difficult for screen readers to navigate.

I am operating with JAWS 14, Windows 7 and Internet Explorer. Netflix
changed things about 4 months ago that made navigation difficult without
a
sighted person to use the mouse. Then, they changed again yesterday and I
cannot navigate their site at all.

Any others out there with this issue?

Daniel
Texas


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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 03:29:29 -0400
From: Kevin Wollenweber <dancingweed@optonline.net>
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Navigating Netflix!!
Message-ID: <000001d0acbd$2ca60aa0$85f21fe0$@net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've noticed that people on this list are also having trouble navigating
the
"new" Netflix site. I was just going on there to "rate" a disk that I
watched, but I can't seem to get to the list of physical media I've put in
my queue. If anyone knows how to do this without the use of a blasted
mouse, please answer. I'd love to know, but I agree that blind folks in
general should get on the collective backs of customer service and find out
why this is such a chore, now.



Kevin Wollenweber

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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 10:31:45 -0500
From: Gery Gaubert <GGaubert@stcharlessheriff.org>
To: "'jfw@lists.the-jdh.com'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: jaws and braillepen 12
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Does jaws work with the braillepen 12? If so, how is it accomplished?
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Message: 26
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:35:01 +0000
From: Adrian Spratt <Adrian@AdrianSpratt.com>
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release
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When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 27
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:57:47 -0400
From: "Lee Anne Atkinson" <lee.atkinson@att.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <000001d0ad14$f35b9140$da12b3c0$@att.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I did the update this morning without much difficulty... I have not
noticed
much difference in Jaws but it updated easily.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure
to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 28
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:12:53 -0500
From: Dennis <dennisc67@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <55885025.3010907@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

installed it on a laptop and a desktop at the same time with no trouble
what so ever.

On 6/22/2015 12:35 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll
make sure to have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS
release, just in case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for
others.
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Message: 29
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:18:29 -0400
From: NLG <ngezik@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <55885175.5090608@gmail.com>
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With the latest upgrade, I had no problems what so ever. With the prior
one I never could get it to work even after removing JFW 16 and
reinstalling a fresh.

On 6/22/2015 1:35 PM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw wrote:
When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll
make sure to have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS
release, just in case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for
others.
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Message: 30
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:06:27 -0400
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <012501d0ad16$28f190b0$7ad4b210$@org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

No problems here at all. It rebooted just fine. I've had updates tell me
they couldn't install, but I've never had trouble rebooting after an
update.


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Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure
to
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case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 31
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:19:31 -0700
From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <001e01d0ad17$fc74f200$f55ed600$@gmail.com>
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I also just installed the new release with no problems. My pc started up
like normal after rebuting.

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
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to
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case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 32
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 11:00:34 -0700
From: <mitch@orbitelcom.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release
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Hi Adrian, The patch install failed with a notice to run a repair on my
current JAWS 16, the most current build prior to today's notice.
This has not happened to me before so, for now, I will wait for further
developments. Mitch

?No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.?
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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought

back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to

have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 33
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:39:23 -0400
From: "Stan Holdeman" <sholdeman@msn.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release
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No installation problems. So far, so good.

Stan


-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought

back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to

have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 34
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:40:27 -0400
From: "Londa Peterson" <lpeterson@vrocp.org>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <000001d0ad1a$e890e7f0$b9b2b7d0$@org>
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In that case the best thing to do is to download the full installation
package from the FS website and run it. This often works when the check for
updates feature doesn't.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of mitch--- via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 2:01 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: mitch@orbitelcom.com
Subject: Re: Installation of today's new JAWS release

Hi Adrian, The patch install failed with a notice to run a repair on my
current JAWS 16, the most current build prior to today's notice.
This has not happened to me before so, for now, I will wait for further
developments. Mitch

?No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.?
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-----Original Message-----
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 10:35 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience brought

back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure to

have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 35
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:48:05 -0500
From: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Jaws User Group" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: installation of today's new release from JAWS
Message-ID: <003801d0ad1c$038ce800$0aa6b800$@sbcglobal.net>
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I am still using JAWS 14 on a PC, with Windows 7 and Microsoft
Office/Outlook 2010. Is today's release an update that I need to download?




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Message: 36
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:49:48 -0500
From: "Daniel McBride" <dlmlaw@sbcglobal.net>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <004001d0ad1c$37822530$a6866f90$@sbcglobal.net>
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If this new release does not automatically appear on my desktop, where do I
go to get the download?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Lee Anne Atkinson
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

I did the update this morning without much difficulty... I have not
noticed
much difference in Jaws but it updated easily.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure
to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 37
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:21:52 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: installation of today's new release from JAWS
Message-ID: <000a01d0ad20$b23f5c80$16be1580$@icloud.com>
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Probably not.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:48 PM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: installation of today's new release from JAWS

I am still using JAWS 14 on a PC, with Windows 7 and Microsoft
Office/Outlook 2010. Is today's release an update that I need to download?


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Message: 38
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:25:27 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <000c01d0ad21$325bafe0$97130fa0$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

To see if you have the latest update for JAWS 14, open the JAWS help menu
and select "check for updates." This works in all versions of JAWS that
have
come out since the feature was introduced several years ago.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:50 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

If this new release does not automatically appear on my desktop, where do I
go to get the download?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lee Anne
Atkinson via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:58 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Lee Anne Atkinson
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release

I did the update this morning without much difficulty... I have not
noticed
much difference in Jaws but it updated easily.

Lee Anne

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 1:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure
to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 39
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 14:26:05 -0500
From: Michal Nowicki <mnowicki4@icloud.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: Installation of today's new JAWS release
Message-ID: <000e01d0ad21$48f7cdb0$dae76910$@icloud.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Installation went smoothly for me.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 12:35 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: Installation of today's new JAWS release

When I rebooted an hour ago, I was notified of a new JAWS release. Against
my better judgment, I went ahead with the installation. As usual, I was
required to reboot on completion. After about five minutes, I decided
something was wrong because the rebooting process got hung. So I shut down
the PC and restarted. It took a while, but eventually the PC came back to
life and JAWS reloaded. Ultimately a good result, but the experience
brought
back bad memories of earlier JAWS releases. In the future, I'll make sure
to
have sighted assistance nearby when I install a new JAWS release, just in
case. I wonder if this process went more smoothly for others.
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Message: 40
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 13:02:42 -0700
From: Crist?bal <crismunoz54@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: RE: installation of today's new release from JAWS
Message-ID: <018601d0ad26$67207fd0$35617f70$@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

JFW 16. Not applicable to older versions of Jaws.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
McBride
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 11:48 AM
To: Jaws User Group
Cc: Daniel McBride
Subject: installation of today's new release from JAWS

I am still using JAWS 14 on a PC, with Windows 7 and Microsoft
Office/Outlook 2010. Is today's release an update that I need to download?


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