Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?

Tom Lange

I dislike the so-called virtual ribbons for that very reason and encourage all of my students to avoid using virtual ribbons like the plague. All they do is isolate you from the interface that's intended by Microsoft, key tips and all. The virtual ribbons, in my view, were designed to satisfy the needs of those users who were resistant to switching from the old-style drop-down menus and submenus of Office 2003 and who had a knee-jerk reaction to an entirely new interface that, in my opinion, has worked quite well since Office 2007 was released and has, also in my opinion, stood the test of time.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson via Jfw" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: Excel shortcut for autofit?


I believe you are correct. You cannot have both. I personally do not like
the Virtual menus, because they do not support first-letter navigation as do
standard menus. Therefore I stick to the ribbon and just learn how to use

Dave Carlson
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Martz via Jfw" <>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <>
Cc: "Paul Martz" <>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 07:16 AM
Subject: RE: Excel shortcut for autofit?

Thanks, everyone.

Now here's a slightly related question. MS has their own keyboard interface
for the ribbon UI, as in "Alt then H, O, I". But you can also turn on the
JAWS rinnon UI to make the ribbon feel more like a system of menus and
submenus. I can see how both might be useful, but they seem to be mutually
exclusive. When I turn on the JAWS ribbon UI, the MS ribbon keyboard
inbterface seems to stop working.

Does anyone know how to set up JAWS so that both the MS interface and the
JAWS interface to the ribbon UI are available? Then I could choose to use
one or the other interface, depending on which is most convenient, personal
preference, etc.

My guess is that this is simply not possible. I have to choose one or the

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