Re: a problem I'm having
Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
The glitch that's driving me nuts is when an Internet app freezes, paralyzing your entire screen. When you finally shake it loose, you lose every open Internet session--what a drag! Except for Office and one old reliable mainframe app, everything we do is done online.
Ted
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir via Jfw
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: a problem I'm having
I've tried WE a couple times and found pretty much the same thing.
Part of it is, I believe, simply being used to jaws and the way it does things but even with a jaws keymap active it was still enough different that I kept stumbling. Plus there are certainly things where WE simply is not as capable, things that matter a great deal to me, the dictionary being the major item. WE dictionary entries simply could not deal with numerous punctuation sequences I use all the time.
I will admit that the WE scripting system is vastly better than jaws'
home built language but writing scripts is something I only rarely need to do and now that jaws supports UIA even that difference isn't all that important.
As for jaws and crashing I find the current situation with auto restart far preferable to what it did up until a few years ago where jaws crashing would very often freeze my entire system and a reboot was the only way to recover. Waiting thirty seconds to a minute is way better than wasting five plus minutes going through a reboot (plus losing all unsaved work).
On 4/27/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir via Jfw
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: a problem I'm having
I've tried WE a couple times and found pretty much the same thing.
Part of it is, I believe, simply being used to jaws and the way it does things but even with a jaws keymap active it was still enough different that I kept stumbling. Plus there are certainly things where WE simply is not as capable, things that matter a great deal to me, the dictionary being the major item. WE dictionary entries simply could not deal with numerous punctuation sequences I use all the time.
I will admit that the WE scripting system is vastly better than jaws'
home built language but writing scripts is something I only rarely need to do and now that jaws supports UIA even that difference isn't all that important.
As for jaws and crashing I find the current situation with auto restart far preferable to what it did up until a few years ago where jaws crashing would very often freeze my entire system and a reboot was the only way to recover. Waiting thirty seconds to a minute is way better than wasting five plus minutes going through a reboot (plus losing all unsaved work).
On 4/27/15, Michal Nowicki via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
There is probably no screen reader that never crashes. However, I've
heard rumors that WindowEyes crashes much less frequently than JAWS.
As far as I know, though, there is no solid evidence to back this up.
At any rate, if you are considering switching to WindowEyes, keep in
mind that WindowEyes behaves very differently than JAWS. That is true
of keystrokes, as well as verbosity. I myself can't stand WindowEyes!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Carolyn
Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:19 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: a problem I'm having
How can we know that Window Eyes wouldn't crash? Whichever I get, I'm
going to have to out and out get the newest version.
GIFT (God is forever true),
Carolyn
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From: "Tom macha via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Tom macha" <toml614@...>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: a problem I'm havingYes Carrylin, I agree witht the crashing issue on the issue with
Jaws. I am thinking of switching to window-eyes.
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From: Carolyn Arnold via Jfw
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 4:34 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
I've been having more and more problem with the crashing in the last
year, but thought it was because my windows and JAWS are pretty old.
This is a little discouraging to think I'll still have to put up with
it even after spending probably a thousand plus.
GIFT (God is forever true),
Carolyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Carlson via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...>
Cc: "Dave Carlson" <dgcarlson@...>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: a problem I'm havingYes, JAWS is becoming a crashing bore.
Dave Carlson
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From: "Michael Mote via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Cc: "Michael Mote" <miketmote73@...>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 08:45 AM
Subject: RE: a problem I'm having
If you're using the latest version of JAWS, that's probably due to
the fact that JAWS stops working, and then restarts itself. It
happens to me all the time. I understand the reasoning behind it,
but you still don't have speech during that minute or so. You're
wondering if your computer has frozen or what's going on. FS built
that into JAWS 15 and 16. In 15, you can control when JAWS
restarts. In version 16, it restarts for you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Curt
Taubert via Jfw
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 10:07 AM
To: Jfw@...
Cc: Curt Taubert
Subject: a problem I'm having
When I play a game that requires jaws, I notice that every once in a
while jaws will stop talking for sometimes a minute. Then it'll
start back up again.
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