Re: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

Aidan <aidan.smarttalk@...>

There might be difficulties with pre install implementations of
narrator, but at the end of the day, Microsoft have no excuse, we must
have a full build in screenreader. And this should be even law. They
mest up enough with windows8 and to make windows10 scriptable as I've
heard is not good enough. They should even change the way the registry
works where possible. They expect everybody to be I t gurus. I have to
pay for jaws 16 but I don't do it with a smile. And I simply do it
because if I don't, then when I really need to upgrade then you going
to pay to much. That is all that is expected of blind people. Just to
pay what we don't have, to be who we are not and so on. I will move to
mac, even if it take me 10 years or longer.

On 21/01/2015, Nermin via Jfw <> wrote:

please note that Window Eyes 9.0 is out.
You can download it and try it with Office 2010 and above for free.
They redid most of their Internet acces, and other stuff.


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From: Soronel Haetir via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 3:09 PM
To: Michael Malver ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

It would be fairly difficult for narrator to be implemented in such a
way that a complete install would be possible for us. For instance
with the HP computers I have now in order to do a install or reset to
factory I have to use a boot screen menu that is present well before
windows runs at all.

On 1/21/15, Michael Malver via Jfw <> wrote:
I wonder if the issue isn't the screen reader, but how it is implemented.
Put another way, could narrator allow us to install windows, if it were
implemented slightly differently. This would allow us to have the
installation ability that you get with Apple, but at the same time,
Microsoft wouldn't have to commit to a full screen reader.

On Jan 20, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Adrian Spratt via Jfw
<> wrote:

You may not want to start a discussion, but posting a link to this
petition inevitably does just that. I worry that if MS came up with
anything close to Apple's VoiceOver, employers would assume basic
accessibility requirements have been met without the added cost of
and updating JAWS. As good as VoiceOver may be, and despite our periodic
frustrations with FS, JAWS is exclusively tailored to the needs of
visually impaired computer users. I dread the day MS takes on this job
elbows FS out.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [] On Behalf Of Nermin via
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:53 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Fully Functional Screen Reader Petition

Hi all,

I consider this a very important petition, however, I do not wish to
a discussion on whether or not this will do away with blindness
the attempt as such will fail, or any other messages of a similar

Someone started a petition calling on Microsoft to incorporate a real
screen reader into Windows 10.
This should include maintenance and installing capabilities.
The link is here:

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