Re: Windows 8 and Candidly Speaking


James Homuth
 

Ahem. Actually...

You were comparing Voiceover with Narator. This is not a Voiceover list.
This is not a Narator list. Therefore, yes, you did go off-topic. That it
expanded from there to how hardware is priced? Not exactly relevant, as both
are just as off-topic.

James,
List Admin

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: August-29-11 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Windows 8 and Candidly Speaking

Hi Howard, Yes I'm still using jaws have a desktop and laptop running jaws
but I use a mac at my workplace. I never said voiceover is better than jaws,
if you read my previous posts I spesifically said voiceover is not quite up
there with jaws. I know this is a jaws list and yes I was the one who
started to talk about apple but I was comparing apples voiceover and what we
speculate about what windows wants to do with their narator and to me
comparing voiceover to where we think they want to take narator is valid
points. The other guys started to talk about apple pricing but we did not
once go off topic.

On 8/29/11, Howard <hwolcott@stny.rr.com> wrote:
hi:
I notice you are still on this jaws list so you must still be using
jaws so I guess voice over on the mac is not the best.
if you have a mac then you don't need jaws so quit clutterin up my
inbox about the mac.
this is a jaws list, not a mac list.


howard wolcott

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From: "Nickus de Vos" <bigboy529@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 2:14 PM
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Subject: Windows 8 and Candidly Speaking

Don't quite agree with you there. Yes apple hardware is more
expensive but it's not to finance side projects like accessibility.
If windows wanted to, they could have made narator in to what
voiceover is today by just putting some efort in to it and
interacting more with their users. My view of apples expensive
hardware is that it's more expensive for a reason, you get what you
pay for, e.g. a apple computer would last you a lot longer than a pc
plus the hardware and software are designed for each other where with
pc drivers must be written for every piece of the pc just to talk to the
other bits.
Let's not go off topic here, I just think apple was smarter than
windows in making accessibility more of a priority a few years ago,
these roomers of narator becoming a full on screen reader, if you ask
me it's windows realising apple was rite in the first place
concerning accessibility but now they will have to try to play catch up.

On 8/29/11, Peter Holdstock <peterholdstock@msn.com> wrote:
Yes but Apple charge every user much more for the hardware so that
helps subsidise the accessibility side of things. Same with all the
other Apple products with accessibility.

Peter





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-----Original Message-----
From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:53 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Windows 8 and Candidly Speaking

Agree with you guys but as I said don't put your hopes on narator or
on FS dropping the price for jaws. Sure there will be a improvement
in narator but doubt if it will be big enough to mean anything. The
thing with FS is they don't give a rats ass for the individual which
is us the users. That's what I like about voiceover, sure it's not
yet up there with jaws but apple doesn't even ask $1000 for it but
still they listen to every single one of their users.

On 8/29/11, Chris Smart <csmart8@cogeco.ca> wrote:
Hi Ed.

I agree with you on all points! Most of the applications I use on a
daily basis, besides email and web browsing, require scripting
support from Jaws. If we all go for the lowest common denominator,
even if it's free, some people will literally lose their livlihoods.


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