i Phone


Kerri <shalom75@...>
 

Hi, all. How does one enable the talking software in the Iphone and since
they are flat, how does one use them?

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From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Marquette, Ed
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 9:38 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Windows 8 and Candidly Speaking

I haven't said much as the topics of JAWS alternatives have come up.
Several have voiced some admiration for Apple and its built-in screen reader
VoiceOver. I don't have a Mac, but I do have an iPhone. So, I know a little
about VoiceOver, and I've been on the Mac lists. So, I know more than a
little about it.
Periodically, someone will mention NVDA, an open source free screen reader.
I've used it, and the experience was far from satisfying. Now, we hear at
least a rumor that Narrator will become a full-blown screen reader, however
one defines "full blown."
What troubles me is that as more and more people are satisfied with "good
enough" because, after all, it is free, the number of those willing to fork
over cash for the powerful screen readers like Window-Eyes and JAWS will
drop. As that happens, the price will doubtless go up.
Speaking from a purely personal perspective, I would hate to see that
happen. I need things like track changes, support for styles, and other
powerful features that go along with using Word to its fullest.
NVDA, VoiceOver, and even System Access cannot compete at that level, having
no functionality to touch either JAWS or Window-Eyes.
Philosophically, I suppose I should shut up and take my medicine. One could
argue that JAWS is artificially high-priced, forcing, or seeming to force,
ordinary users to pay for features they don't want or need.
Perhaps if I want the features, I should be willing to pay extra for them.
I know JAWS now has two price levels, with a somewhat higher price for what
I use -- Professional Version.
Perhaps, in the future, what we will see is a JAWS light for $100 or so and
a JAWS heavy duty for $5,000 or more. Ouch!
Still, one has to consider the features one needs. I may not need all the
cell reading functions in Excel, but I'm willing to pay for them to get the
professional features I need in Word. I just think we should step back a
little before we cavalierly express a willingness for "good enough." My
guess is that "good enough" won't in fact be "good enough" just when it is
needed most.


-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Peter Holdstock
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 11:12 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Windows 8

I know that they are making Narrator in to a full blown screen reader and is
expected to be competition to JAWS. That said I think it's functionality
still won't come close but then how much of the jaws features do we all use
on the day to day basis at least for home use. Hopefully they will release a
public beta like they did with Windows 7 as it was very successful.

Peter





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-----Original Message-----
From: Nickus de Vos
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 5:09 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Windows 8

Hi all I was just wondering if any of you seen anything about windows
8 and if jaws 12 will work with it. Thing is from what I've heard the
windows 8 interface is going to be dramatically redesigned to give it
a fresh look, it is a atemt by microsoft to stay in the game along
side apple.

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