Tom macha via Jfw <jfw@...>
No I have my douts it will. I see a lot of these companys are most likely getting them selves in quite a jam. Therefore they are trying to wheel and deal with MS office. A lot of the state aigencys seems to back Freedom Scientific equipment at least they did in Ct and Iowa.
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From: Cy Selfridge via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 9, 2014 1:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Hi Nicole,
When the original blurb came across about GW Micro there were some caveats
about "support".
I never followed any of them up but it appeared to me that the "free"
version came with little or no support. You could, of course, purchase a
maintenance agreement and have full support.
Now, after I posted the thing about Microsoft running off other companies I
gave it more thought and you do have a valid point.
It will be most interesting to see which snake crawls in bed with which
other snake. (LOLLOLLOL)
I suspet that several companies may well be looking down the gun barrel
wondering when the bullet will come flying out. (LOLLOL)
Someone mentioned Sendaro and I wlso wonder how long they can survive
charging a grand for a navagation system which can be had for very little or
even free on the iPhones and other i-devices.
I did notice a special offer from Sendaro for the Braille Notes but have not
looked into it either.
I can safely say that the future should be most interesting indeed.
I have not renewed my SMA with Fs and mnay not ever do so.
Cy
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-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey via Jfw Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 2:27 PM To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' Subject: RE: Screen Readers The big question I keep coming back to is how GW Micro, which is structured as a for profit company, is going to make any money from giving it away for free to use with Office. I understand their angle, that they might get people to buy it if they get used to using it with Word et al, but I don't think that's going to work how they want it to. -----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Londa
Peterson via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 12:59 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
Hi Kimber,
I haven't tried the free Window-eyes offer yet, but I'm reading mixed
reviews on the various lists I'm on. Some people really love it, but
others are having major issues. I guess that's why I haven't tried it
yet. In other words, I don't think you're alone.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Kimber
Gardner via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 1:55 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
Just as a point of information with no judgment intended, I recently
purchased Office 2013 and thought I'd take advantage of the free
Window Eyes offer to take it for a test drive. Aside from the fact I
found the command structure rather confusing, window eyes consistently
crashed my laptop. This happened so often I decided to take it off my
system and won't be returning to it any time soon.
Your milage, as they say, may vary. But I'm curious to know if this
happened because the two screen readers were vying for the eloquence
synthesizer? Or is there some other inherent conflict between JFW and
WE?
I have since chosen to use NVDA as my backup screen reader for when
Jaws takes a dive.
Thoughts?
Kimber
On 5/9/14, James Malone via Jfw <jfw@...> wrote:
Just a heads up, I've been asked to try and use the jaws set AP within
window-eyes. A lot of clients that can't afford to keep up with
their plans
to upgrade Jaws is getting their systems preloaded with Window-Eyes
and word. This is included with their new system.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Judith
Bron via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:08 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
GW Micro is also making window eyes available in the maimn menu of
Microsoft products. Eventually, at this rate, all of us will be using
window eyes.
Judith
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Cy
Selfridge via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
I absolutely agree with you in this.
With government funding getting shorter and shorter FS may have
problems selling their wares to their largest client.
Cy
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Gerald
Levy via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:49 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
No matter how scrittable Narrator becomes, it will never be as
functional or feature-rich as JAWS or Window Eyes. If any screen
reader is in trouble, it may be JAWS, not Window Eyes. As long as
FS continues to charge upwards of
$1000 for JAWS and makes absolutely no concessions to make it more
affordable like GW Micro has with Window Eyes, it is in more danger of
going under than GW Micro.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:25 AM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
Indications are that Window Eyes is also on its way down the chute.
This move to offer it free with Office is a desperation maneuver, and
since Narrator will (hopefully, if the reports are correct) be
scriptable in Windows 9 it doesn't look good for GW Micro.
Jaws will probably hang on a bit longer thanks to existing scripts
and legacy programs, but this is not good news for any add-on
screen reader company.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Gerald
Levy via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:17 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
Well, Serotek is still in business, so I guess System Access is
till
around, but who knows for how long? Now that Mike Calvo is gone,
and Window Eyes is being offered free to users of Office 2010 and
2013, not to mention NVDA, which is also free, it is hard to see
how
Serotek can remain a viable competitor in the cscreen reader
market.
Gerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:02 AM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
Is System Access still free and in production?
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Mario Brusco via Jfw
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:59 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
there also is the built in one in Windows called narrator,
which I would like to purchase something to replace MS Anna,
like Lequendo's Allison.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anna Byrne via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."
<jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: Screen Readers
Thunder used to read MS Access when JAWS wouldn't. The voice
is awful, but it was a good reader.
At 06:51 AM 5/9/2014, you wrote:
A couple of years ago, there was another one from The UK,
Thunder screen Reader. It's the feature attraction in a suite
of
programs--
a
basic PDF reader, Internet radio guide, and other stuff.
Ted
-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Mario Brusco via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 7:47 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Screen Readers
Non Visual Desktop Access (NVDA) from nvaccess.org is the only
one that I know of that's free, but a donation is encouraged.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Hourigan via Jfw" <jfw@...>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...
jdh.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 5:33 PM
Subject: Screen Readers
Hello Listers,
Could anyone post some of the screen readers downloadable for
free please?
So I can compare them to Jaws.
Thanks Kevin Hourigan.
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