Re: [Bulk] Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws 11toJaws12


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I have you by one version, 3.1 here and I never get the hot key assigned either, I always have had to make the shortcut myself.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@gmail.com>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws 11toJaws12


Dave, as I also said previously, I've been using jaws since version 3.20,
and it never has. If that's a problem then get used to it!
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 22 August 2011 23:46
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12

Gerald:

What else can I say, except to repeat what I wrote in my previous posting,
according to FS Tech Support, JAWS does not assign a shortcut key during the

installation of any version of JAWS. If you have a problem with that
statement, then you should take it up with the FS Technical Support
Department.

Now, as far as I am concerned, this thread has reached the end of the road.
I have nothing else to say or add on this thread. This is my last posting
on this thread.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12



Then how do you explain the fact that my version of JAWS 9 had the hot key
of Alt-Control-J when it was originally installed? I did not assign this
hot key myself, and Hot Key Detective confirmed that it was not
user-assigned. Hot Key Detective designates user-defined hot keys as
"personal" and system or program-assigned hot keys as "common".
Alt-Control-J was designated as "common", which means that it was not
user-assigned. So where did it come from? And how do you explain the
fact that When Open Book 7 was installed, it was assigned the hot key
Alt-Control-O? Again, I didn't assign it myself.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12


Gerald:

When I recently reinstalled Windows XP Pro on my computer and installed
JAWS 9, the JAWS installation program did not, I repeat, did not, assign
CTRL+ALT+J or, any other shortcut key combination to JAWS 9.

Likewise, when I installed JAWS 10, 11, and 12, none of the installation
programs for any of those versions did not, again I repeat, did not,
assign any shortcut key.

Finally, before posting my response to your last posting, I called FS
Tech Support to clarify this point.

The Tech Support Representative, when I ask them if JAWS assigns a
shortcut key automatically during the installation process or not, said
that the JAWS installation program does not assign any shortcut key to
the newly installed version of JAWS. They went on to say that JAWS might
delete an assigned shortcut key. when you use the Repair JAWS function.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12



Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version installed on
your computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key Alt-Control-J
when it was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot
key, it will always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined
hot key Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically
assigned by an application take precedence over hot keys defined by the
user. You can use Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular
hot key is application assigned or user assigned. When I installed the
demo version of JAWS 10, Alt-Control-J, which had been created
automatically when I originally installed JAWS 9, was automatically
reassigned to JAWS 10. In order to reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS
9, my default version of JAWS, I had to use Hot Key Detective to delete
Alt-Control-J from JAWS 10 and then use the Properties dialog of JAWS 9
to re-create it as a user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10 first and
then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the shortcut key
combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would launch. In that
instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions of my
experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that is, launch
JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for JAWS 10 and
JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the same with
JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which
version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and launched
JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more than one
application, Windows will launch the last program to which you assigned
the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which has the
latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws12


dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again using a
different version of jaws. would it not react to the last request.
this would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a
thought. please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11toJaws 12


Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not automatically
assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not complain that I
had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded JAWS 10
and press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS would be
loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a short cut
key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if you tried
to assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to a
program to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the
case and give you another opportunity to choose another short cut
combination for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws
11 toJaws 12


Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that JAWS will
start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a shortcut will be
added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and it may or
may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11, 12) you
could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the first one
with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for the old
version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close enough for my
comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay Area.
But I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11
to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J, keystroke. That
is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What you need
to do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check the box
to have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any version of
Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut
keystroke. Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11 to Jaws
12


Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J shortcut to Jaws
12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in earlier
upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring the
shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function would have
taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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