I keep hearing this hot key detective in the mits of this wonderful
discussion. Where do I get it?
Is it duable on windows 7?


kimsansong@aol.com

-----Original Message-----
From: jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com [mailto:jfw-bounces@lists.the-jdh.com]
On Behalf Of Dave Durber
Sent: 22 August, 2011 12:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12

Gerald:

When I recently reinstalled Windows XP Pro on my computer and installed JAWS
9, the JAWS installation program did not, I repeat, did not, assign
CTRL+ALT+J or, any other shortcut key combination to JAWS 9.

Likewise, when I installed JAWS 10, 11, and 12, none of the installation
programs for any of those versions did not, again I repeat, did not, assign
any shortcut key.

Finally, before posting my response to your last posting, I called FS Tech
Support to clarify this point.

The Tech Support Representative, when I ask them if JAWS assigns a shortcut
key automatically during the installation process or not, said that the JAWS

installation program does not assign any shortcut key to the newly installed

version of JAWS. They went on to say that JAWS might delete an assigned
shortcut key. when you use the Repair JAWS function.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited@verizon.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut fromJaws
11toJaws12

Not necessarily. Assuming JAWS 11 is the latest version

installed on your

computer, it was automatically assigned the hot key

Alt-Control-J when it

was originally installed. Unless you delete this "hidden" hot

key, it

will always launch JAWS 11, even if you create the user-defined

hot key

Alt-Control-J for JAWS 10. As a rule, hot keys automatically

assigned by

an application take precedence over hot keys defined by the

user. You can

use Hot Key Detective to determine whether a particular hot key is
application assigned or user assigned. When I installed the

demo version

of JAWS 10, Alt-Control-J, which had been created automatically

when I

originally installed JAWS 9, was automatically reassigned to

JAWS 10. In

order to reassign Alt-Control-J back to JAWS 9, my default

version of

JAWS, I had to use Hot Key Detective to delete Alt-Control-J

from JAWS 10

and then use the Properties dialog of JAWS 9 to re-create it as a
user-assigned hot key.

Gerald


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut

from Jaws

11toJaws12

Karen:

Yesterday, if you remember, I assigned CTRL+ALT+J to JAWS 10

first and

then JAWS 11. I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed the

shortcut key

combination to see which version of JAWS Windows would

launch. In that

instance, JAWS 11 was launched over JAWS 10.

Following your comments in your reply, I reversed the actions

of my

experiment, to see whether Windows reversed its action, that

is, launch

JAWS 10 over JAWS11.

I first deleted the CTRL+ALT+J shortcut key combination for

JAWS 10 and

JAWS 11.

I then assigned the shortcut key to JAWS 11 first and did the

same with

JAWS 10.

I then unloaded JAWS 10 and pressed CTRL+ALT+J and waited to

see which

version of JAWS would be loaded.

Well, surprise, surprise, Windows did reverse its action and

launched

JAWS 10 over JAWS 11.

It appears that if you assign the same shortcut key to more

than one

application, Windows will launch the last program to which you

assigned

the shortcut key combination, that is, the application which

has the

latest updated date and time stamps.

HTH

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Hughes" <khughes8@cogeco.ca>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut

from Jaws

11toJaws12

dave if yuou assign a short cut then do the same action again

using a

different version of jaws. would it not react to the last

request. this

would eliminate the first request of the same thing. just a

thought.

please advise, karen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Durber" <d.durber@gmail.com>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut

from Jaws

11toJaws 12

Dave and everyone:

From what I can tell, the JAWS installation does not

automatically

assign CTRL+ALT+J, as a short cut to start JAWS.

I was using JAWS 10 at the time. As an experiment, I assigned
CTRL+ALT+J, to both JAWS 10 and 11. Windows did not

complain that I

had assigned the short cut to two applications. I unloaded

JAWS 10 and

press CTRL+ALT+J and waited to see which version of JAWS

would be

loaded. Well, in my example, JAWS 11 was loaded.

It would help, if Windows allowed only one occurrence of a

short cut

key combination to be allowed to launch a program. So, if

you tried to

assign a short cut combination that was already assigned to

a program

to another program, Windows would tell you that this was the

case and

give you another opportunity to choose another short cut

combination

for the other program.

Sincerely:

Dave Durber

----- Original Message -----
From: "Farfar on Laptop" <dgcarlson@sbcglobal.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut

from Jaws

11 toJaws 12

Mike,

Not quite.

Checking the "Start JAWS automatically" just ensure that

JAWS will

start up
on boot of the computer.

When installing a new version (say from 11 to 12) a

shortcut will be

added
to the desktop with the version number (e.g. JAWS 12) and

it may or

may not
have the Ctrl+alt+J keystroke assigned.

If you have more than one major version of JAWS (9, 10, 11,

12) you

could
end up with a desktop shortcut for each, and usually the

first one

with the
hotkey.

Users like Tom need to edit the shortcut preferences for

the old

version and
the new to ensure that only one has the hotkey assigned.

Dave Carlson
From my Dell Latitude 630, currently not nearly close

enough for my

comfort
to my Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Francisco Bay

Area. But

I'll
try to remedy that situation.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Barbara In Arcadia" <mb69mach1@charter.net>
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list."

<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 5:14
Subject: [Bulk] Re: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut

from Jaws 11

to Jaws
12


Hi Tom,

There is no need to transfer the alt, control, + J,

keystroke. That

is the
default shortcut keystroke for all versions of Jaws. What

you need to

do is
go to the Jaws12 context menu / options / basics and check

the box to

have
Jaws12 start automatically. By checking this box in any

version of

Jaws,
tells Jaws to use this particular keystroke as the shortcut

keystroke.

Hope
this helps. Take care.
Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Behler
To: Jaws users e-mail list
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: Transferring Alt Control J shortcut from Jaws 11

to Jaws 12

Hi, again.

I just thought of one more question here.

What is the best way to transfer the Alt Control J

shortcut to Jaws

12
from
Jaws 11, when doing the upgrade process?

I seem to recall having a problem with this once before in

earlier

upgrades,
and can't remember how to resolve it.

All I remember is that I had great difficulty transferring

the

shortcut
over
to the new version of Jaws from the earlier version.

I would have thought that the "merge utilities" function

would have

taken
care of this, but it didn't in my earlier upgrade efforts.

Thanks for putting up with all my questions lately.

Tom in Michigan



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