Re: Mechanical keyboard


Soronel Haetir
 

DVDs are generally protected so you can't take screen shots, and you
have to be able to in order to use convenient OCR.

On 1/23/14, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...> wrote:
Convenient OCR didn't work. It has been a while since a mouse-click was
tried. If I recall correctly the mouse-click did work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 10:13 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

Marvelous, Convenient OCR won't work? Also, does everything work once
somebody clicks?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:10 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

What I mean is that I have DVDs with training lessons on them. A sighted
person can see the list and click on them. Try as I might, I can't get
JAWS
to see them. Hence the disc appears blank.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 7:18 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

What do you mean about JAWS recognizing or not recognizing a DVD? That's
not JAWS call to make; that is the province of your media player.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 4:08 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

The web link Nicole provided does work. PC Keyboard.com is where to go to
get an IBM mechanical keyboard. They only sell them through their website.
Cost $89. This company makes keyboards for IBM and hence today's IBM
keyboard still has the IBM mechanical switches as described by Nicole but
the keyboard has gone through evolutionary improvements. Though it is
still
said to be heavy duty with the same IBM feel.

Question:

A question I have is that I know JAWS can reassign keys for different
purposes. What I would like to do is to toggle the function keys between
multi-media control and their normal function, all together and at the
same
time. Can all function keys be toggled on and off together back and forth
between normal use and multi-media control? Or is there a way to do this
otherwise. I use a standard keyboard plugged into a DELL laptop.

Also, are there scripts that work with DVDs etc. I have a number of them
that I can't get JAWS to recognize.

Thanks,

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS)
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 8:15 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

They were the platinum standard for the time, and have been my criterion
for
excellence ever since.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

My suspicion, based on what I've seen come out of IBM R&D, is that they
probably engineered everything to have the same response based on careful
research about optimum tactile measurements. Until recently IBM R&D had a
bigger budget than all of Apple Computer in total. (Only recent increases
in
Apple's size due to their consumer products division has made Apple grow so
that this might no longer be true) There are college professors who give up
tenure to go work for IBM R&D because the opportunities for research are so
much greater there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Dave
"Farfar" Carlson
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 4:28 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mechanical keyboard

Actually, I'll bet they were designed to emulate the old keypunch
terminals, also.

Dave Carlson
San Francisco Bay Area semi-retired sales engineer, Farfar, musician,
and woodworker.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicole Massey" <nyyki@...>
To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:41 PM
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard


When IBM made the original keyboard for the model 5150 Personal
Computer they were aiming the machine at businesses, especially at
typists. So they built a keyboard for it that had the same touch
response as an IBM Selectric typewriter, whose action was optimized
for the best typing speed and accuracy. These keyboards had a firm
response, a clear click when the key was pressed, and a metal base to
keep it secure on the desk surface -- this was long before keyboard
drawers were even thought of. The keyboard is heavy enough to use as a
defensive item should your home be invaded, and there's a sturdy feel
to them. The original models even had removable cords so you could
replace a worn one or switch out the cord if you needed to use the
keyboard for something else at some point that required a different
connection.
Many blind folks who use them find that their key response is so clean
and sure that they don't need character echo turned on to type with
accuracy.
It's a truly good experience to use one, and I've heard less
complaints about repetitive strain from using them too. This is pretty
much the Rolls Royce of keyboards -- solid, dependable, and engineered
for very long life without any problems.
I dug up the name of the company and their website. Note that the link
below is several years old, but hopefully it'll get you there still.
As I said earlier, I'm planning on getting at least five of them --
one for my KVMA switch computers, one for my DAW machine in the
studio, one for my MIDI machine in the studio, one for the "stereo"
machine in the living room, and one for the security and server KVMA
switch. I used these keyboards back in the days when I was running my
BBS, so I know how nice they are.

Here's the link:
<http://www.pckeyboard.com>

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of MJ
Williams
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 3:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

I use wired Logitec keyboards which cost around
£10.00 (here in the UK), and for me personally they work very well.
the action is very low and if regularly cleaned and generally looked
after, they will last years.
If you've used the IBM keyboard before, would you mind sharing with
us
how they may differ from a modern keyboard?
I came to computing long after IBM keyboards were in common use.
Thanks, Matthew
At 20:48 17/01/2014, you wrote:
Wow, those were terrific. If they have wireless models, I might be
tempted, although my good old HP has been chugging for 8 years now,
and
just made the transition to my new PC.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Andre
Jarreau
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 2:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

Thanks Nicole.
Good idea. I will definitely add it to my list of keyboards to
look
at.

Andre

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Nicole Massey
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:37 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

There's a company that bought all the dies and molds for the old
IBM
PC
keyboards. They're heavier, and they cost around seventy bucks for
one,
but they've got that touch feel and durability the old IBM
keyboards have. Do a search on the web for IBM PC Keyboard and you
should find it.
I'm saving for several, as I use a lot of computers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Andre
Jarreau
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:25 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Mechanical keyboard

I may be heavy handed. Have worn out three different keyboards.
That's why I want a mechanical keyboard.

Mechanical keys have metal springs and switches inside them.
The
bump- keys use the rubber bump to supply the spring action. I
was
told the mechanical type keys are more durable and longer
lasting.

Will look into Microsoft and Logitech. Thanks for the
recommendation.

And so you know. Mechanical keyboards are everything from
standard
keyboard to gaming keyboards. The only differences are found
internal to the switch connection itself.

Many thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of
Soronel Haetir
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:00 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Mechanical keyboard

Unless "mechanical keyboard" means something special to you that
I
am not aware of (to me it just means standard style keyboard
rather
than bubble-bump sheet like you see in spill-likely areas or
some other
non- standard keyboard) with, I have always been extremely happy
with Microsoft and Logitech keyboards.

Honestly I haven't ran into any keyboard that did not simply
work with jaws(though one laptop it was definitely easier to use
the laptop keyboard layout, while on my current one I use the
desktop
layout).

On 1/17/14, Andre Jarreau <andre.jarreau@...> wrote:
Hi Guys,

I am looking into purchasing a mechanical keyboard and would
like
to know your thoughts. It is not an area of expertise for me.
If
it matters I might be getting into a doctoral program with
finance
research concentration and need a durable keyboard to work
with
JAWS.

A mechanical keyboard retail company made the following two
recommendations.
But they weren't sure if JAWS would work 100% with them.
Please
look at these recommendations and let me know your thoughts.
Or
if you know of a better nongaming, standard keyboard; do let
me
know.
I don't want to
spend
money that will cause trouble with JAWS.

The nongaming keyboards were:

First recommendation was by a manufacturer called ROSEWILL.
The
retailer was out of stock and didn't offer a model number.
They
thought this manufacturer might be the better one.

Their second recommendation was:

Manufacturer: Topre
Mechanical key type: Realforce Keys
Model: Model Type Heaven
Switch type: 45 (This number represents the amount of
pressure
it
takes
to
activate any particular key. It was described as a mild
amount
of
pressure.)

Thanks in advance.

Andre


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