Ari Damoulakis <aridamoulakis@...>
I remember my first jaws. It was 3.5, and before that I used a 3.3 demo. I remember the thrill I got when I heard a talking installation and the computer, it was the first time I think I'd heard a computer talk properly. Do you guys remember the little song and the sound of the shark swimming in the water when the installation started? And Doctor Jaws? By the way, my 3.5 number is 42820
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On 10/3/12, Robbie Curtis <essence64@...> wrote: Hi Everyone,
I started with JAWS 3.2, and my serial number is 22288.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Cy Selfridge" <cyselfridge@...> To: "'The Jaws for Windows support list.'" <jfw@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:45 AM Subject: RE: Freedom Scientific Petition
Hi, I believe I started with JAWS in 1993 and my sn is 49XX. I think I started with version 3.something. Cy
-----Original Message----- From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:12 PM To: The Jaws for Windows support list. Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition
No, I started using jaws during the transition period between jfw8 and 9.
I have had several SMAs in the meantime as well as purchasing the remote access option, but my SN has not changed.
On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Good idea. Mine is 35xxx and I purchased back in version 3.5. However it may
be that a new purchase serial number maintains the first digits as the version in force at the time. My 35xxx aligns with version 3.5. Was your first version 4.2?
IF this is the scheme, then FS allowed for up to 1000 new users per version,
and might change the serial prefix with each new version. We'd have to collect a fair number of serial numbers to be sure of this.
Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Soronel Haetir" <soronel.haetir@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 15:02 Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition
Well, we could make a guess by serial numbers.
My jaws serial number is about 427400 and I purchased jaws in late 2007 if memory serves.
I am pretty sure FS does in fact use incremental SN, not some odd pattern with lots of holes. If we had someone who is a very recent purchaser we could get an idea about both the overall population as well as how fast it is growing.
On 10/2/12, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@...> wrote:
Nope, and no idea.
Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 13.0.718, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit
----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Logue" <bobcat11@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 14:45 Subject: Re: Freedom Scientific Petition
I wonder if FS would release the number of licences or users they have sold. Do we know how many Jaws users there are?
On 10/2/2012 10:24 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
There is absolutely no way that two thirds of all blind people use JAWS. There are an estimated 1.2 million people in the US classified as legally blind, but only a small fraction, perhaps less than 10% use computers with screen readers. The overwhelming majority of blind people do not use computers, so the actual number of JAWS users is probably quite small. Also, an estimated 70% of blind people are unemployed, so they would have little or no means of acquiring computers or commercial screen readers. And the vast majority of JAWS users do not belong to this or other blind-tech related mailing lists, so they would have no way of learning about the petition. FS keeps the number of JAWS customers a closely guarded secret, so nobody really knows how many blind people are actually using it. But if I had to venture a guess, I would say that the number of JAWS users might be somewhere between 50,000 and 150,000, but this is only a wild guess not based on any facts or evidence.
Gerald
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marquette, Ed" <Ed.Marquette@...> To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 11:45 AM Subject: Freedom Scientific Petition
All: As promised, I am about to put the Freedom Scientific "Gimmick Feature Moratorium" petition up on the Internet. Before doing so, I have a couple of questions:
1. The Change.org petition form suggests (perhaps requires) a sign-up goal. I'd be interested in suggestions as to the number of JAWS users that should sign such a petition to be considered a success. One of those helping with the drafting of the petition has information that two thirds of all blind persons use JAWS. Does anyone have any idea how many people that is? What would be a reasonable percentage of signers to expect? Looking for suggestions here. I'm happy to accept responses off-line. Although this is JAWS-related, I don't want to spark a flurry of off-topic discussions
again.
2. Change.org is, to my way of thinking, a little awkward when it comes to screen reader usage. It isn't bad, but there are some less than intuitive prompts. I would like this petition to be on the most accessible public petition Website possible. Would anyone on the list perhaps know of a site for a public petition that is better and/or more accessible than is Change.org? Thanks to the off-line support and drafting assistance. We've tried to accommodate the views expressed on this list and elsewhere even though, in some instances, the interests were not always
congruent.
In the petition, we have not cited specific issues. I actually started to do that, but I wanted to get the petition up before Christmas. <SMILE> Thanks for all your help!
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