moderated Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


Annabelle Susan Morison
 

I tried the Rebuild MBR parameter in both programs, Minitool and Disk Genius. Nothing helped.

On 10/03/2022 5:29 PM Dave Durber <d.durber@...> wrote:


Annabelle:

I need clarrification? are you talking about using the Rebuild MBR function in Minitool Partition Wizard or, did you download Disk Genius and are you thinking about using the Rebuild MBR function in Disk Genius?

Dave

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Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

I bet if that happens, then I would need Markus's help to possibly fix something in the Bios. Right now, I think it says the first boot device in the boot order is the DVD/CD Rom drive.
On 10/03/2022 12:57 PM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:


The worse you can do to it with this utility, is to put it into the state it is already in.
Glenn
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Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

I want to make sure this won't ruin my machine even further.
On 10/03/2022 12:09 PM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:


You will select yes.
You don't want the old MBR.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

Here's what I get when I press Enter on "Rebuild Master Boot Record".




Create new Master Boot Record(MBR) for current selected disk
(HD2:WDCWDS500G2B0C-00PXH0(466GB)). Existing MBR will be replaced. Create MBR now?
Note: If there is a boot manager software installed on MBR, it will be destroyed.
Yes No

What shall I do next?
On 10/03/2022 11:29 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:


Well maybe this tool is better, more thorough.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

I have the full version of Minitool Partition Wizard, which has that same function, but when I tried that parameter, nothing changed.
On 10/03/2022 11:19 AM Glenn / Lenny <glenn@...> wrote:


Hey Annabelle,
Please let the list know if this tool works for your computer problem, that is, the booting problem.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Durber
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2022 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

Bill:

Annabelle may not need to use the Windows recovery disk option.

there is a program called "Disk Genius", which is very accessible with screen readers. In the program, there is a function, which will rebuild the MBR information for her system disk. Once that has been done, Annabelle should hopefully be able to boot her system, using the system disk thus, avoiding the hastle of reinstalling and reconfiguring all her software. the free version of the program can be downloaded from the download page at the following link:


Once the page is loaded, press JAWS/INSERT KE+F7, to open the JAWS list links function. tap the DOWN ARROW, a few times, and the 32 and 64 bit free versions of the software are there.

I do not know what the full limitations of the free version is but, I do know that the option to rebuild the MBR information for a drive, is not restricted because, I needed to use the function to rebuild the MBR for my system drive a couple of years ago.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill White
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2022 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?

Hi, Annabelle. Unfortunately, it will erase both programs and documents. Your programs can be installed again, and can probably be easily found on the Internet. But your data will most certainly need to be backed up before doing the recovery.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 9:58 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


I wonder if that would erase any of my programs and documents. Good heavens I hope not!

On 10/02/2022 9:52 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



As I told Annabelle, she'll probably need to do a Windows recovery using her Windows CD to fix the MBR.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Glenn / Lenny
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:52 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


Hi Bill,

Annabelle had the rebooting problem before the Jaws problem.

I think her computer's MBR is messed up from an improper shutdown from a power loss.

Glenn

----- Original Message -----

From: Bill White

Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2022 10:35 PM

Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


Hi, Annabelle. I don't know why your machine is going into an endless cycle of restarts, but this sounds more serious than a JAWS repair or reinstall. You may need to do a Windows recovery using your Windows 10 CD. You may also need to take your machine into a store to see what is going on, since it is impossible to access your BIOS without sighted assistance.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 8:13 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


I did that, but still nothing changed. What's even weirder is I have to have the Windows 10 CD in my CD Rom drive while restarting my machine, otherwise, if I don't, the machine seems to go into this endless cycle of restarts. Could it be something got messed up in the Bios when I pressed the reset button by accident when I meant to press the power button instead?

On 10/02/2022 8:02 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi again, Annabelle. One thing I forgot to say, because it is such a habit with me is this. If you haven't restarted your computer after the problem started happening, I would do so before doing anything else. This often clears up problems in Windows, JAWS, and other programs you may be running.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:43 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


That's strange! The problem disappears in default directory mode, or whatever you said it is. So what shall I do next? Do I just recreate the custom profile I made of Eloquence?

On 10/02/2022 7:26 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Annabelle. I'm not sure how these things happen, but, as we use JAWS, sometimes files are overwritten, and sometimes they are overwritten incorrectly. One other thing you could try is the following.


Put JAWS temporarily into Default alternate user directory mode. This can be accomplished in the following way,


1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.

2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,

Default alternate user directory mode

It will also unload any modifications you have made to the default settings in JAWS. Because of this, JAWS may begin speaking slower or with a different voice.

Now that JAWS is in Default alternate user directory mode, open one of the programs that was giving you trouble with the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" Settings, and see if the trouble continues in this mode. If it does not keep happening, the problem was caused by something that was changed in the JAWS settings. If the problem continues in this mode, it is a problem occuring with JAWS, even in its default state.


Now, to exit Default alternate user directory mode,


1. Press INSERT plus SPACE to enter layered commands.

2. Press the letter Z. JAWS will say,

Default alternate user directory mode off.


If the problem was absent when Default alternate user directory mode was active, I would suggest a clean reinstall of JAWS, if the repair does not work.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 7:06 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


I wonder how that even started happening. I mean, JAWS has never done this before.

On 10/02/2022 6:59 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi again, Annabelle. If it doesn't happen with NVDA or Narrator, I would be led to believe that it is a problem with the current version of JAWS, or that JAWS may need to be repaired as I previously suggested.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 6:54 PM
To: main@jfw.groups.io
Subject: Re: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


It doesn't seem to happen with NVDA or Narrator.

On 10/02/2022 6:35 PM Bill White <billwhite92701@...> wrote:



Hi, Annabelle. This doesn't sound exactly like any other Windows problem I've run into. Have you used another screen reader such as Narrator or NVDA to see if the problem occurs with those screen readers? It could be a JAWS problem that could be fixed by using the JAWS installer for your current version of JAWS to do a JAWS repair.


Bill White


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From: main@jfw.groups.io [mailto:main@jfw.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:24 PM
To: JAWS For Windows Mailing List
Subject: Access Clasic Taskbar Settings In Windows 10?


Hi, it's Annabelle.

I'm having trouble accessing the classic "Taskbar And Start Menu" settings in Windows 10. Every time I press enter on "Taskbar and Start Menu", I'm taken to the new version made in "Settings". Unfortunately that version is not easy to access with screenreaders like JAWS. I wish there was a way that I could access classic parameters made for earlier versions of Windows, as they are more suitable for the sight challenged. Specifically I'm trying to turn off the parameter to "Click on submenus when I pause on them", as it drives me mad! If someone could please make a registry key for me, I would kindly appreciate it! Thank you!







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